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what is a good place to buy law enforcement duty gear?

do law enforcement officers know how to protect themselves without there duty gear batons pepper spray etc.?

What's the difference between a police duty gear belt, a utility belt and or a plain gear belt? I'm getting my gear together for a law enforcement academy, I was supplied with a shopping list, but the belt descriptions are stumping me.

What do SWAT and LE agencies use for riot gear? I'm looking for high quality crowd control gear, preferably tried and tested brands used by SWAT and various law enforcement agencies during real documented cases of civil unrest. RedMan, Hatch, and Damascus pop up frequently, but reviews for their products are virtually nonexistent, so I can't even get a base opinion of what's good and what isn't. Some of their products, like Damascus' FlexForce system, seem gimmicky and don't have solid facts about its properties other than the so-called "revolutionary technology" they are made from. I need riot gear that has been -proven- to save lives on duty.

Was this particular police officer ignorant or just not prepared to do his job? I live in Texas. I am a military police officer in the army. I was traveling around a small town in Texas on my way home coming from a wedding and I was traveling alone. I had all of my MP gear in my trunk like my "batman" belt, PR 24 or a "billy/police stick", and my ballistic vest or what some what people call a bullet proof vest or a second chance vest. I was pulled over after re-fueling my 04" Lexus at a closed gas station (pay at pump). The police officer pulled me over for going 4 MPH over the posted speeding limit which was 30 MPH. I did not have a problem with getting pulled over for not obeying the traffic laws which was not intentional; after all I was tired and while I admit I am a police officer myself and I should pay more attention to the post traffic signs I was tired and I made a mistake. What I have a problem with was that I was annoyed with the officer's ignorance and heckling over my police gear. He asked why did I not have a badge and I tactfully responded with, "Sir, military police patrol officers do not get issued badges.". He then asked me, "Well then how do I know your not impersonating a cop?". I asked, "Sir, do you see me wearing police gear?". He aggressively responded with, "Don't get smart young man?". I said, "Sir, please stop heckling me; I am going to give you the number to my police department and you can talk to them to verify my identity and then maybe you can let me go.". He went back to his car to call his boss and came back a few minutes later and said, "Okay, I am going to let you go but I will have to keep your PR 24.". I said, "What?". "Give me the number to you boss or I can call 911 and tell them you are stealing my PR 24, which belongs to an off duty federal law enforcement officer of which was in my trunk away from my reach.". He said, "Sir, I am going to let you off with a warning and you can keep your PR 24.". I said, "Thank you sir!". He gave me back my information and I left. So what do you think of that police officer?

Police Stereotypes or facts? Narcotics units -Immediately grow facial hair, tell everybody you were ordered to. -Start watching every episode of Monster Garage. -Buy a biker wallet with a big chain. -Make every case involve overtime $$$. -Buy bunches of boats, RV's, and motorcycles with that overtime. -Learn to play golf drunk. SWAT units -Wear team T-shirts, Oakley sunglasses and boots everyday. -Try to fit the word breach in to every conversation. -Have a mirror handy to check hair, if you have hair. -Never say hello to anyone who is not an operator, just practice your SWAT head nod. -Subscribe to Soldier of Fortune and Muscle and Fitness. -Learn to play golf wearing a gun. Community Service units -Hate SWAT. -Work to make everybody love you. -Paint your office in pastel colors. -Think Feng Shui. -Subscribe to Psychology Today. -Learn to play miniature golf. Traffic units -Write tickets to EVERYBODY. -Spend every weekend cleaning your bike and polishing boots. -Annoy everyone on the radio calling out your stops. -Talk about nothing but how many tickets you wrote in one day. -Ride by a building with big windows to see your reflection. -Golf is lame, motor rodeos are cool. K-9 Units -Become sadistic -Show pictures of your latest dog bite -Brag about your largest drug find -Smell like a dog -Workout 3 times a day -Show off your bruises Administrative Units -Three-hour lunches everyday, tell everybody it's a "meeting". -Upgrade police department cell phone every month. -Tell everybody you are published in a national law enforcement magazine. -Update your revenge list on a weekly basis. -Golf Rules! Play lots of golf. Patrol Units -Has nerves of steel. -In a terminal state of nausea from department politics. -Inability to keep mouth shut. -Has defining tastes in alcohol. -Is respected by peers. -Beats the crap out of his caddy on any bogeyed shot Investigators -Come in at 0800 -"Breakfast" from 0815 to 1030 -Work from 1030 to Noon -Noon to 1400 Work out and Lunch -1400-1700 Sit in CID and talk about how many girlfriends you have and how the wife doesn't know. Plan your next RV, fishing, motorcycle trip. Patrol Sergeant -Remembers very well "how we used to do do it." -Always willing to tell his officers the above. -Tries to fit the word "liability" in to every sentence. -Talks about "what he's hearing from upstairs." Trainee -Unable to grow facial hair. -Watches every episode of Cops. -Worships the ground the SWAT guys walk on. -Arrives for work three hours early. -Thinks the sergeant is thrilled to see him. -Won't drink on the golf course because it violates the open container ordinance. FEDS - Shave head, and grow goatee (unless you want to be a management weenie, then make sure you are clean shaven, with short almost military style haircut). - Wear 5.11 pants, and polo with agency logo (unless you want to be a management weenie, then make sure you always have a shirt and pants to which a jacket and tie can be quickly added for when the boss might be around). - Arrive at work at 8AM, spend one hour answering useless emails, and 30 minutes checking your retirement investments. Then go with another agent to Starbucks "to discuss your a new case." - After participating in your first warrant service (as outside cover) make plans to join the agency SRT,SWAT, etc, to "properly utilize your superior tactical skills." - After doing your first buy bust, immediately begin asking the boss about "long term undercover" jobs. - Refuse to play golf with "the locals." New Corrections Officers - Show up for work 15 minutes early - Buy only the best ink pens (Pilot G-2) - Wear T-Shirts of your "dream department" under your uniform - Wear a full duty belt of gear even though you have to remove: gun, baton, spare magazines, knife, cell phone, and BUG when you arrive at the facility - Become friends with every local police officer - Continue eating too much and not exercising

Impersonating a Police Officer..what do you think of this story? long story short..my brother got pulled over last wednesday about 1am when he was leaving his club security job for expired tags. before I go any further Im going to give a short bio. My brother served in the army got discharged in 92' then became a police officer in tennessee..left there about 00'/01'..went to work for a prison for a couple years then another til oct 07'..while at the last prison became a member of the state drug task force.. Back to the story.... So when the officers pulled him over they questioned him about his PBA emblem on the back of the car. He explained that he was in law enforcement and was a member. They asked for proof so he showed them a honor badge that he received when he was on duty in tennessee. He was involved in a shoot out and they awarded him a badge and vest that he got to keep. They didnt believe him and check to see if he was employed with the tennessee department and he wasnt (no shit). they then searched his car and found his old black teeshirt that says police on the back of it, handcuffs, a gun belt (that he wore at the prison that wasnt even complete) and a whole bunch of military gear from when his platoon was about to go to Saudi during the Gulf War(that was in his car because he was about to sell it ebay).He showed them his old military id..the Sgt said Bull**** and took him to jail.. He was charged with expired tags, no insurance and impersonating a police officer We bailed him out that day..Later that night he had to go work at the club again and guess what ..THE SAME F**king COP pulled him over again..this time his tags and insurance was current. He just wanted to see what was up.( What the f**k is up with that) I forgot to add something he also does security at his apartment complex..Moving on Saturday moving we read an article in the newspaper saying that he was pulled over said he was currently a cop..had no insurance bc he just got back from Iraq.had all this police stuff in his car that he wasnt suppose to have, and he deceived his apartment complex to get discounted rent and was wanted on new charges. I dont understand because yes he is getting a PARTIAL discount not FULL bc he used to be in law enforcement and works for the task force at his complex. I personally was there when he explained to the property manager his law enforcement background so I know he didnt lie to them. So the new charge Theft by Deception is some b.s., on top of that the complex isnt pressing charges and didnt supply that information. the only reason the police found out is bc they had a warrent to look in his rental file at the complex and seen that his rent was discounted.. We do have a lawyer and the complex is writting a statment indicating that they were not deceived by my brother in any way. What is your feelings on this story..and please mature opinions..thanks! This story is true to the T..just left the hearing a couple of hours ago.. I want to add that since my brother was charged with 2 more felonys his inital bond has been revolked and he now has no bail For anyone who doesnt believe my story I would be more than happy to send links to the newspaper article and hell even his credentials. Trooper3 I totally agree with you..in order to impersonate an officer and act of authority has to be done and simply having items doesnt imply impersonation.. To answer some of the questions thus far..why he had his military stuff is his business, I personally dont care why..Selling it on ebay..people have sold worse.. He left the department to work for the prison..left the prison bc he was injuried on the job trying to keep inmates from escaping.. Im not concerned with the case..it is some b.s and he has more than enough documentation on everything.. just looking for thoughts..so thanks everyone who responds.. Would like to add that I understand the whole issue about whatever he was doing with his military gear in his some may think is unmoral. At this time, it isnt something that I am focusing on.

Navy veterans that have gone into the police academy afterwards? I have a question geared towards cops, or people currently in police academy, if they were veterans of the Navy. Others can answer, but the details are a bit specific to Naval service. Its been my dream to become a police officer and since graduating high school I've been taking steps towards my goal. I recently started to heavily consider joining the Navy (another dream of mine over the years) and I think I'm going to enlist. The Navy offers a wide variety of different fields of interest that you can be taught in preparation for your Tour of Duty... this is where my question comes in. Logically, if my initial goal is to become a cop, I should go with the "Law Enforcement & Security" option when I'm trained by the Navy for specific jobs. Even though I'd love to do LE&S, I thought it might be interesting to try one of the other various fields instead (for instance, "Mechanical & Industrial" would be interesting to learn, or even "Emergency, Fire, and Rescue"). So back to my initial point, do you believe that specific training in a certain field (other than LE&S) will lessen my chances of a policing job? Thanks for any input. Wish me luck. :-) Here's a list from the Navy's official website of Enlisted offerings: http://www.navy.com/careers/enlisted/